natrajs
08-31 04:29 PM
Well, that's the job of the media. Our job is to get GC. Although the issues are true, I would still prefer having absolutely correct articles, so no anti-immigrant could point his/her finger saying "look, immigrants are spreading lies". Just like we bashed them when they were claiming that we pay less taxes. It was a good point to discredit them.
Media always narrates and presents it in a form where the commoner can understand, it needs spice.
Let us hope that we get more media attention and people start listen to us.
That�s the key here
Media always narrates and presents it in a form where the commoner can understand, it needs spice.
Let us hope that we get more media attention and people start listen to us.
That�s the key here
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Libra
07-06 04:10 PM
Any brilliant idea from your side....:D
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of being a WHITE KISS ARCE
STUPIDITY
LOVE BEING A SUBMISSIVE SLAVE
so much for a free modern world...bbbrrrrrrrrrrrr
off to India ..no more pepsi, coke jeans for me ...the real GANDHIGIRI is wear home made khadi clothes....hit them where it hurts and that is MONEY
HELP LOCAL INDIAN ENTERPRENEURS ..SENDING FLOWERS is really cheesy and idiotic ..who came up with this stupid idea???
sbdol
03-10 06:47 AM
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On speeding up Labor certification
When one of us said congress's intention for LC is 21-60 days, the staffer replied that was before 911. How can we make this happen and speeded up the work in PBEC/DBEC?
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Bluekayal
I would not be too thrilled by this meeting. Looks like the official just politely leads the conversation but really did not look deep into the problem.
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On speeding up Labor certification
When one of us said congress's intention for LC is 21-60 days, the staffer replied that was before 911. How can we make this happen and speeded up the work in PBEC/DBEC?
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Bluekayal
I would not be too thrilled by this meeting. Looks like the official just politely leads the conversation but really did not look deep into the problem.
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08-21 10:21 AM
Office of Inspector General, they investigate all Labor Frauds
Who is this guy.. taken you for a ride? Would you mind dropping in his name and address here? as you are safe now working with another employer.
Who is this guy.. taken you for a ride? Would you mind dropping in his name and address here? as you are safe now working with another employer.
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08-31 06:21 PM
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BharatPremi
09-19 03:16 PM
Ok, I've seen a lot of threads about go to the rally, actions items, I've reading a lot of guys saying dont ask for your receipt status, dont waste your time etc, etc.
Yes we did the rally we were great with all those signs, and appearing in the Indy TV but...
Question remains open:
1. When are they going to increase the GC quota?
2. When congress id going to do something?
I've the feeling that that's it we made our point but we are still with no GC, waiting receipts..............
Let me explain you in very human form: Baby is the fruit. It takes 9 months to get that fruit. To get that fruit humans put effort ( You know what I mean...). When they put effort, immediately they do not look for baby.. They wait for 9 months.. Correct.. Just apply this analogy to the struggle what we have initiated.:)
Yes we did the rally we were great with all those signs, and appearing in the Indy TV but...
Question remains open:
1. When are they going to increase the GC quota?
2. When congress id going to do something?
I've the feeling that that's it we made our point but we are still with no GC, waiting receipts..............
Let me explain you in very human form: Baby is the fruit. It takes 9 months to get that fruit. To get that fruit humans put effort ( You know what I mean...). When they put effort, immediately they do not look for baby.. They wait for 9 months.. Correct.. Just apply this analogy to the struggle what we have initiated.:)
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somegchuh
12-07 01:59 PM
I see there is a lot of discussion about how one day GOI will have an agreement with US Govt and we will all get benefits of all social security taxes paid. I don't see that happening because India doesn't have a social security system! US does have social security agreements with a lot of countries but those countries have social security programs. US transfers credits and the other govt has to take care of the details. Also, these agreements are always bilateral. India would have to offer some sort of social security or something in return to US nationals working there. I wouldn't get my hopes high about getting social security money if you leave the US before getting 40 credits. In fact even if you do gather the credits ... by the time you become eligible in 30 years things could be drastically different and you may not get a single penny out of it.
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realizeit
02-11 11:53 PM
Mr MPADAPA,
I know you have spent some time analyzing the whole stuff and came with your conclusions. At the end, if someone says that the crux of your conclusions are wrong, for an emotional person, it would be tough to take. A rational person would take it lightly and think before responding. In your immediate previous reply, you just cherry picked a quote from my previous reply and put that as my interpretation. Please do not put words into my mouth. My reply has been pasted below in its entirety.
You have campared the paragraph with NumbersUSA argument etc. Dear friend, my argument was exactly opposite to that paragraph. I think, you didn't get the meaning of the paragraph itself. My paragraph contained phrases like "If your argument is correct..", ". If the unused can be given to ..". etc, which makes the argument exactly opposite to what mentioned there. So, that means I believe exactly opposite to those arguments.
I acknowledge that you have every right to interpret the law in whichever way you want. My point is that, it really doesn't matter to all of the folks who applied in EB2 and waiting for GC. The thing that really matters is the way in which USCIS acts this year. They can act in whatever way they want. This year, if they say, there won't be any family visa wastage, we will get nothing. Contrary to that, if they see that by the end of the year there is a chance for 15K family vis wastage, they may allocate that to employment category.
To all EB2 folks out there: No need to really feel bad or happy about the analysis of Mr. MPADAPA.
My general advice to anyone who put forward an argument for propaganda and a campaign is: Don't massage the facts, don't twist the facts, don't over analyze, don't under analyze, Also don't say that your interpretation is the final verdict. Because, even if we can analyze all the immigration related laws in the whole Federal register, we may not be able to come to a final conclusion....!! Why? Because you don't have a clue what is in the field manual and internal memos of the USCIS and you don't know how they procedurely allocate spill over etc on each year. As long as USCIS and DOS can use the terms "In Anticipation..", "As per our expectations..", no one will be able to hold them accountable for the visa wastage.
MPADAPA..you may continue your argument/discussions, if you think this is a moot point. But I don't believe so.
If you can prove your initial basic argument with complete facts and details, I will openly declare, I am wrong! Your original argument was "Since the family category used up all Visa numbers in 2008, in 2009 EB2 cannot expect any spill over from Family category and hence we need to expect slow movement....".
Instead of proving the above, you may cherry pick my statements and continue to beat about the bush. I am giving up here my friend.
Good luck :)
realizeit, you just didn't get the unused visa calculation.
By the way your interpretation quoted below is exactly what numbersUSA used to claim that there is no visa available for recapture. And they used that argument to shoot down our recapture bill.
Knowing that PD's aren't going to move forward drastically, we need to start working towards some thing drastic like a bill/amendment. Or we can sit and mull over it and wait until the second week of Aug (when Sep bulletin is announced) to show our frustration.
My complete earlier reply
Still I disagree my friend. I know, law is the law! What I am disagreeing is your interpretation and conclusion.
In reality, towards the end of the Fiscal year, if USCIS/State Dept finds that visas will go unused in one category, they can use the spill over rules. So, if there are some potential unused visas in Family category they can add it to Employment category and vice versa. This will all work in the same year. It will not work or get transferred to a following year. In your initial argument, you said, because all the family visas for 2008 are completely used, we won't get anything from that category as spill over during this year (2009).
If your argument is correct, there won't be any need for recapture laws that we all are working for. If the unused can be given to the next year, no visa will get wasted. USCIS/DOS can just give the unused in family category to Employment category in the following year and vice versa.
In reality that is not the case. Visa number in one year will not flow to the next. So, your original argument is completely wrong. If there is nothing left in family category for the year 2008, that has nothing to do with the expected spill over to Employment category from family category in 2009.
In my opinion, law is complex and snippets of the law from here and there won't will not clarify anything. So, if anyone would like to be optimistic, stay there, to be pessimistic, stay there - this whole argument by MPADAPA is not enough to change your state of mind :) Just my observation!
I know you have spent some time analyzing the whole stuff and came with your conclusions. At the end, if someone says that the crux of your conclusions are wrong, for an emotional person, it would be tough to take. A rational person would take it lightly and think before responding. In your immediate previous reply, you just cherry picked a quote from my previous reply and put that as my interpretation. Please do not put words into my mouth. My reply has been pasted below in its entirety.
You have campared the paragraph with NumbersUSA argument etc. Dear friend, my argument was exactly opposite to that paragraph. I think, you didn't get the meaning of the paragraph itself. My paragraph contained phrases like "If your argument is correct..", ". If the unused can be given to ..". etc, which makes the argument exactly opposite to what mentioned there. So, that means I believe exactly opposite to those arguments.
I acknowledge that you have every right to interpret the law in whichever way you want. My point is that, it really doesn't matter to all of the folks who applied in EB2 and waiting for GC. The thing that really matters is the way in which USCIS acts this year. They can act in whatever way they want. This year, if they say, there won't be any family visa wastage, we will get nothing. Contrary to that, if they see that by the end of the year there is a chance for 15K family vis wastage, they may allocate that to employment category.
To all EB2 folks out there: No need to really feel bad or happy about the analysis of Mr. MPADAPA.
My general advice to anyone who put forward an argument for propaganda and a campaign is: Don't massage the facts, don't twist the facts, don't over analyze, don't under analyze, Also don't say that your interpretation is the final verdict. Because, even if we can analyze all the immigration related laws in the whole Federal register, we may not be able to come to a final conclusion....!! Why? Because you don't have a clue what is in the field manual and internal memos of the USCIS and you don't know how they procedurely allocate spill over etc on each year. As long as USCIS and DOS can use the terms "In Anticipation..", "As per our expectations..", no one will be able to hold them accountable for the visa wastage.
MPADAPA..you may continue your argument/discussions, if you think this is a moot point. But I don't believe so.
If you can prove your initial basic argument with complete facts and details, I will openly declare, I am wrong! Your original argument was "Since the family category used up all Visa numbers in 2008, in 2009 EB2 cannot expect any spill over from Family category and hence we need to expect slow movement....".
Instead of proving the above, you may cherry pick my statements and continue to beat about the bush. I am giving up here my friend.
Good luck :)
realizeit, you just didn't get the unused visa calculation.
By the way your interpretation quoted below is exactly what numbersUSA used to claim that there is no visa available for recapture. And they used that argument to shoot down our recapture bill.
Knowing that PD's aren't going to move forward drastically, we need to start working towards some thing drastic like a bill/amendment. Or we can sit and mull over it and wait until the second week of Aug (when Sep bulletin is announced) to show our frustration.
My complete earlier reply
Still I disagree my friend. I know, law is the law! What I am disagreeing is your interpretation and conclusion.
In reality, towards the end of the Fiscal year, if USCIS/State Dept finds that visas will go unused in one category, they can use the spill over rules. So, if there are some potential unused visas in Family category they can add it to Employment category and vice versa. This will all work in the same year. It will not work or get transferred to a following year. In your initial argument, you said, because all the family visas for 2008 are completely used, we won't get anything from that category as spill over during this year (2009).
If your argument is correct, there won't be any need for recapture laws that we all are working for. If the unused can be given to the next year, no visa will get wasted. USCIS/DOS can just give the unused in family category to Employment category in the following year and vice versa.
In reality that is not the case. Visa number in one year will not flow to the next. So, your original argument is completely wrong. If there is nothing left in family category for the year 2008, that has nothing to do with the expected spill over to Employment category from family category in 2009.
In my opinion, law is complex and snippets of the law from here and there won't will not clarify anything. So, if anyone would like to be optimistic, stay there, to be pessimistic, stay there - this whole argument by MPADAPA is not enough to change your state of mind :) Just my observation!
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thomachan72
05-17 10:52 AM
Incidently the murthy deletes all your posts if you mention anything about immigrationvoice.com or immigration-law etc. May be they fear they will loose the business!!! Who will give them business anyway:D :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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saileshdude
10-27 11:10 AM
nrk,
I see various possibilities. Best bet would be to take Infopass soon and find out.
1) DHS trying some new exercises which are completely new. I thought we had seen it all but this is a new one.
2) Do you have any case against you (ciminal or civil) in your home country?
3) Did you have any unlawful status of more than 6 months during your presence in US.
4) Do you have any case pending here?
5) Did you, in past, provide any fake documentation or info pertaining to any benefit you were seeking?
These are just few things that may cause this.
Do update us what you find out after Infopass.
I see various possibilities. Best bet would be to take Infopass soon and find out.
1) DHS trying some new exercises which are completely new. I thought we had seen it all but this is a new one.
2) Do you have any case against you (ciminal or civil) in your home country?
3) Did you have any unlawful status of more than 6 months during your presence in US.
4) Do you have any case pending here?
5) Did you, in past, provide any fake documentation or info pertaining to any benefit you were seeking?
These are just few things that may cause this.
Do update us what you find out after Infopass.
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IneedAllGreen
05-22 04:37 PM
" Logiclife " is venting his agony for these LawJokers on what they comes up with " Bargain bill". I can understand his feeling because we all are in same boat. Just fight till it end...."It ain't end untill it end" Thats all.....
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Hopeful1
06-18 06:20 PM
Thanks Snathan for bringing up this issue.
I personally suffered due to this visa stamping. I was stuck in Delhi for four months due to administrative processing, almost lost my job, lost apartment, lost lot of money and now I am scared to go back for stamping again. My wife and I had to miss my father in law's funeral due to this fear.
I know few other folks who have been in similar situation and I can contact them to share stories.
I am willing to contribute both time and money for this initiative.
I personally suffered due to this visa stamping. I was stuck in Delhi for four months due to administrative processing, almost lost my job, lost apartment, lost lot of money and now I am scared to go back for stamping again. My wife and I had to miss my father in law's funeral due to this fear.
I know few other folks who have been in similar situation and I can contact them to share stories.
I am willing to contribute both time and money for this initiative.
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thankgod
05-11 02:18 PM
I sincere hope Dream act pass. Illegal kids suffer more. Our suffer less. Parents made mistake. Why they pay?
Its your stupidity to talk like this.
Then what about the people who want to immigrate legally and stand in the line for many years.
If they do pass DREAM Act now, the same thing will releat again in 2016 or 2020 .
The solution is really to deport all the illegal immigrants and to tighten the borders.
We are the one who is paying taxes and every year and thousands of dollars insurance.
If you do them legal (Young Illegals). simply, they will collect their Food stamps and their unemployment wages happily.
See to improve the economy really , they need to give the green cards to young talented legal people. then people like me and you will buy a home here with out any fear. You dont send money any more to your own country.
Think twice before you give a statement.
I totally disagree with you.
Its your stupidity to talk like this.
Then what about the people who want to immigrate legally and stand in the line for many years.
If they do pass DREAM Act now, the same thing will releat again in 2016 or 2020 .
The solution is really to deport all the illegal immigrants and to tighten the borders.
We are the one who is paying taxes and every year and thousands of dollars insurance.
If you do them legal (Young Illegals). simply, they will collect their Food stamps and their unemployment wages happily.
See to improve the economy really , they need to give the green cards to young talented legal people. then people like me and you will buy a home here with out any fear. You dont send money any more to your own country.
Think twice before you give a statement.
I totally disagree with you.
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gc28262
07-29 03:47 PM
This "me vs you" attitude is what is unhealthy. Having PD of June 2002 is nothing to be happy about, either for EB3-I or ROW. It is just pathetic. We should all be together in this. Asking for more visa numbers, recapture, etc would be more practical for us
I was answering in reference to his question.
For me, I want all categories to be current all the time :)
I was answering in reference to his question.
For me, I want all categories to be current all the time :)
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losthope
06-11 12:46 AM
# of votes are less. many people don't know about this?
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01-26 09:32 AM
1. Your old employer can revoke your I-140, however they cannot do anything to your I-485 application. Technically this should not matter since you are eligible for AC-21 (greater than 180 days, same or similar job).
2. Unfortunately, for one reason or another USCIS has been mistakenly issuing immediate denials (no NOID or RFE - just straight denial) for people with revoked I-140s.
3. After the I-485 denial, the process involves filing an MTR to explain to the USCIS that your case should be portable based on the AC 21 law, Yates memo etc.
4. If you do not have H1b, and are solely dependent on EAD, then you should technically not work when I-485 gets denied. However, there are 2 schools of thought out there: one school believes not to work since the 485 is denied, and another school believes to work since EAD was not explicitly revoked, and since you believe USCIS wrongly denied your I-485. Also, the latter school argues that since your MTR would be opened withing 2-3 months, you can accrue less than 180 days presence, and use 245k to seek pardon for that. Its all about the risk appetite of the new company and their lawyers.
5. Based on my research, it looks like MTR is taking anywhere from 2 weeks to 3 months, with the latter being more likely due to the increase in MTRs lately. My advice here will be to discuss all these options with your new employee, to see what their thought is. Obviously, if you feel they will tell you to go home, and won't keep the job open for 2-3 months, then it might make sense to either find another employer who will be willing to file H1b, or stay put.
6. I invoked AC 21, moved on EAD, and got denied last week. I had done all my research, and got guarantee from prior company that they would not revoke I-140. I called them after i got the CRIS email and they said they had not revoked I-140. So i am still waiting for Denial Notice to see reason why.
Bottom line, AC 21 comes with risk, and you have to be ready to ride the wave, if things are to get delayed or you are to be out of work for some time. If there was anything I could have done differently, I would have REALLY forced new employer to file H1b on my behalf. I feel i laid down too easily on this request after my previous company said they would not revoke I-140. I did ask the legal team of the new company, and they said no. I should have discussed with my bosses, since they really wanted me, and would have probably overriden the legal team.
But life goes on...
2. Unfortunately, for one reason or another USCIS has been mistakenly issuing immediate denials (no NOID or RFE - just straight denial) for people with revoked I-140s.
3. After the I-485 denial, the process involves filing an MTR to explain to the USCIS that your case should be portable based on the AC 21 law, Yates memo etc.
4. If you do not have H1b, and are solely dependent on EAD, then you should technically not work when I-485 gets denied. However, there are 2 schools of thought out there: one school believes not to work since the 485 is denied, and another school believes to work since EAD was not explicitly revoked, and since you believe USCIS wrongly denied your I-485. Also, the latter school argues that since your MTR would be opened withing 2-3 months, you can accrue less than 180 days presence, and use 245k to seek pardon for that. Its all about the risk appetite of the new company and their lawyers.
5. Based on my research, it looks like MTR is taking anywhere from 2 weeks to 3 months, with the latter being more likely due to the increase in MTRs lately. My advice here will be to discuss all these options with your new employee, to see what their thought is. Obviously, if you feel they will tell you to go home, and won't keep the job open for 2-3 months, then it might make sense to either find another employer who will be willing to file H1b, or stay put.
6. I invoked AC 21, moved on EAD, and got denied last week. I had done all my research, and got guarantee from prior company that they would not revoke I-140. I called them after i got the CRIS email and they said they had not revoked I-140. So i am still waiting for Denial Notice to see reason why.
Bottom line, AC 21 comes with risk, and you have to be ready to ride the wave, if things are to get delayed or you are to be out of work for some time. If there was anything I could have done differently, I would have REALLY forced new employer to file H1b on my behalf. I feel i laid down too easily on this request after my previous company said they would not revoke I-140. I did ask the legal team of the new company, and they said no. I should have discussed with my bosses, since they really wanted me, and would have probably overriden the legal team.
But life goes on...
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12-28 12:33 PM
Anyone invoking AC21 with unapproved I-140?
If you try to use AC21 without an approved I-140 your employer can withdraw the I-140 petition ( since it is not approved yet ) . So best wait a few months until it is approved and then merrily go the AC21 way
If you try to use AC21 without an approved I-140 your employer can withdraw the I-140 petition ( since it is not approved yet ) . So best wait a few months until it is approved and then merrily go the AC21 way
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thankgod
05-11 02:23 PM
No IV provision is in the bill.
For something to happen, each member needs to do their part by supporting this effort and taking part in action items. With so little support and initiative we cannot expect to match the kind of hard work DREAM act advocates have done.
If we need an amendment, we should be showing up for advocacy day or signing up for monthly contributions, volunteer our time, or doing any state chapter work by meeting local lawmaker offices regularly in groups. Dream Act folks have built a very strong network and advocacy effort that no politician can ignore. Go through the list of things they have been doing over the past few years and you can judge how much percentage we have as a community matched that effort. This is a reality and and ultimately it will be us that are responsible for no bill being passed in the last few years.
The community needs to do more than wasting time on the forums and trackers if they really want any bill to happen.
Definitely it is time to Unite. If they are doing illegal immigrants legal citizens, why should not legal applied immigrants as Green card holders.
Do you think we need to start some thing like flower campaign or sending letters to president like that....
But it is the time to act. Now or Never..........
For something to happen, each member needs to do their part by supporting this effort and taking part in action items. With so little support and initiative we cannot expect to match the kind of hard work DREAM act advocates have done.
If we need an amendment, we should be showing up for advocacy day or signing up for monthly contributions, volunteer our time, or doing any state chapter work by meeting local lawmaker offices regularly in groups. Dream Act folks have built a very strong network and advocacy effort that no politician can ignore. Go through the list of things they have been doing over the past few years and you can judge how much percentage we have as a community matched that effort. This is a reality and and ultimately it will be us that are responsible for no bill being passed in the last few years.
The community needs to do more than wasting time on the forums and trackers if they really want any bill to happen.
Definitely it is time to Unite. If they are doing illegal immigrants legal citizens, why should not legal applied immigrants as Green card holders.
Do you think we need to start some thing like flower campaign or sending letters to president like that....
But it is the time to act. Now or Never..........
jonty_11
07-06 06:20 PM
just been informed that the newscast is going is to happen tommorow. apparently there was some "breaking" news!! guys make sure you tune in tomorrow!!
tommorow what time (provide Time Zone also)
tommorow what time (provide Time Zone also)
gc_kaavaali
06-05 11:50 AM
New memo is not helping us in terms of answering few questions. Can i comeback on H1B (without subject to cap limit) after changing job using EAD?
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